Choose, Snooze, or Refuse: CB

Ras-I Dowling NFL Draft

Who will Ras-I Dowling be delivering hits for in the NFL?

For the next ten days, until the 2011 NFL Draft is upon us, we’ll be going over ten positions that the Patriots might look at. We’ll give you who the Patriots should choose early, late (snooze), or not at all (refuse).

Chime in with your choices in the comments section.

Choose: Ras-I Dowling, Virginia

If the Patriots are in the market for a physical corner that also has some safety ability, than Dowling is their guy. He is a great tackler that is also adept at re-routing receivers at the line of scrimmage. He’ll thrive playing man, but can also play zone.

Durability is Dowling’s main concern, although he does tend to gamble at times. After the middle of the 2nd round, Dowling would provide some great value.

Snooze: Curtis Marsh, Utah State

Marsh has only played cornerback for two seasons, and is still learning the nuances of the position. He has flashed some great talent though, showing off some fluidity and physicality at the line.

A fourth or fifth round pick on Marsh would not be a waste.

Refuse: Curtis Brown, Texas

Put succinctly, Brown is a soft player. He is a poor tackler that excels in off coverage, not being able to effectively jam receivers at the line. This is not the type of corner that the Patriots need to start targeting again.


33 Responses to “Choose, Snooze, or Refuse: CB”

  1. Jaxon's Dad says:

    Hold up!! If you watched the Senior Bowl, you would have seen Curtis Brown jump an unbelievable rout and make more the few outstanding plays! Your analysis is bogus. Ras-I is very good corner “when healthy”. Check his medical records. If drafted expect to Dowling be on the Questionable/Doubtful list during his rookie season. Marcus Gilchrist is a DB that can play the slot or drop back to safety. Decent mid-round versatile pick. Sleeper is Kendrick Burney out of UNC, only knock is his height but undeniable talent.

  2. Bruschi54 says:

    If BB stays put at 28 & 33 either Aaron Williams/Texas or Brandon Harris/Miami could be available and hard for him to pass up. “Experts” are talking more and more about Williams possibly sneaking into the end of round 1 as the draft gets closer.

    • Jared says:

      Scouts and experts are pretty solid in their opinion about the significant drop-off after Amukamara is chosen. This isn’t predicted to be a very deep draft, but CB is one of the deepest positions this year. There will be a lot of good corners that go in round 2 thru 5. I feel that you can get someone as good as a Brandon Harris in the 3rd or 4th round. And spend those top 40 picks on defensive front seven, and offensive lineman. For two reasons, 1-If you have a serious need in the defensive front 7, trying to fill those needs in later rounds is like trying to find a needle in a hay-stack. The other reason, 2-after the first two rounds, the drop-off with O-lineman and D-lineman/LB’s is somewhat scary.

  3. CC says:

    Unless alot of QB’s are picked, and it’s a clear cut can’t but help do it…………….NOT UNTIL THE 3RD!
    Replacing Butler does sound pretty darn good.

  4. Patriots Draft Guru says:


  5. prioris says:

    Most durability issue players should not be considered until 3rd round or later. Pass on Dowling.

    I think if Jimmy Smith or Amkumara falls to Patriots, this will increase odds of BB taking CB.

    Look at GB Packers …

    Except for free agent Woodson, their 3 other major starting CB’s were non drafted free agents. This goes to show that a team doesn’t need to draft a CB.

    • Ryan says:

      Life is much better when you have a pass rush. aka Clay Matthews, and you have Woodson taking on huge responsibilities.

      • AM says:

        But that goes both ways–a pass rush won’t help very much if the opposing QB can hit an open receiver with every three-step drop. I think Green Bay has an a good secondary and a great pass rush, whereas we have a great secondary (seriously) and a pass rush that is mediocre at best. Also, worth remembering that Green Bay gets a lot more rush from their defensive line than we do (some of which is by design); Matthews is very good, but he’s just one part of that scheme.

        • Jared says:

          Patriots will have McCourty and Bodden starting on the outside, I’ll take that all day. But starting at OLB, Cunningham and Tully Banta-Cain??? Yikes, they need a passrusher, there problems in the secondary aren’t an issue with talent, their problems getting to the qaurterback, are.

    • TD says:

      Smith has some character issues that may stop him from going high.

    • AM says:

      Not crazy about Smith because of the attitude issues, but if Amukamara fell to 17, I don’t see how we could pass on him. Too good a player–pair him with McCourty, and we’d be set for a long time in the secondary.

      • TD says:

        I doubt BB would pass on Prince at #17 either, he is a top notch DB in the college ranks and not just for one year either.

        • Jaxon's Dad says:

          Amukamara is overrated. If you don’t think so, watch the clip. Justin Blackmon bullied the Prince and ate his lunch.

  6. Ryan says:

    Any thoughts on Gilchrist?

    • Jared says:

      Thats what I’m saying Ryan. Marcus Gilchrist.
      Nothing but great thing said about Marcus, and when you watch him play, compared to Dowling, Gilchrist looks like the better player. Both can play both corner and safety, but Gilchrists’ quickness would be huge for him projecting as an NFL cover man. Belichick has NEVER been a fan of the taller, lankier corners like Cromartie or one Ras-I Dowling. Coaches from Clemson say that Gilchrist knows every single persons job on the defense in every situation. Sounds like a Bill Belichick guy, and to boot, he will most likely still be available at pick 60 in the 2nd round.

      • TD says:

        BB has stated before that his defense calls for a lot of zone coverages; which means shorter, quicker guys. He also has said that with this type of corner back he does not have to pay them very much

        • Ryan says:

          He had two first rounders as CB’s right now?

        • TD says:

          It means compared to paying guys like Asamough, Revis, Assante the non-tackler, Bailey and Robinson. Those guys are getting 6-10 million per year. What is McCourtey getting? Somewhere in the area of $1-1.5 million?

        • Jared says:

          2 first rounders….for the price of 1 say….Asante Samuel.
          ps, no-one was more pissed when they let Asante go.

  7. AM says:

    Choose: Brandon Burton, Utah. Good height and speed blend, with good coverage ability in zone and man-to-man, and excellent tackling to boot. Very coachable, and a top-notch special teams performer; resembles Devin McCourty in a lot of ways. Well worth a pick in the third round.

    Snooze: Byron Maxwell, Clemson. Raw player, but very physical with good reaction time and ball skills. Would be a project, but worth looking at in the late rounds or as an UDFA.

    Refuse: Dowling. Durability issues plus a gambler in coverage equals the last thing we need.

  8. TD says:

    I would expect BB to go DB if a highly rated guy falls to us in 1st/2nd round. Sanders & Merriweather are FA’s next year and Arrington is backup and Butler had better improve this year or he may be a casualty.

    • Patriots Draft Guru says:

      Dowling could replace both Sanders and Butler potentially.

      • Ryan says:

        If Dowling is there 33-40 I say we take him. I’m sick of the junk CB’s we have hanging around the program.

        • Jared says:

          no flippin way i’m taking Dowling in the 30’s somewhere, with guys like.

          Even corner Brandon Harris or Aaron Williams could still be available. Or a borderline 1st round tackle like Sherrod could still be there.

          When you watch Dowling, to me, he looks slower because of his size. But then you go look, and hes only 6’1″.

        • Ryan says:

          Not saying it wont happen, but I’m just warning you Jared, in case you have something within your grasp that could possibly act as a projectile if thrown properly at your television. Bill may not take an OLB until late, I’m just throwing it out there so you don’t have an aneurism or break your television should he pass up Ayers, Houston, Reed, etc… I’m not disagreeing, just trying to help a brother out.

        • Jim R says:

          Watch film on him, very poor tackler. If you want to take a look at a big corner go Burton-Utah or Sherman- Stanford

        • Jared says:

          Im with you Ryan, i’m prepared for it, I’m gonna say they do something like they did last year with Cunningham-pick someone between 50 and 70. But I hope they dont take a corner in the top 50, the first pick I would use on a corner would be 74th, 60th if they trade for picks in the 40s and 50s.

      • JMC says:

        Dowling and/or Jimmy Smith could be there at #33 if they are looking for a CB/S.

        • Ryan says:

          Jimmy Smith could be there. I think the WHOLE draft for the Patriots is going to center around HOW many teams take QB’s in the first 10 picks. It could be a rough draft for the Pats if those teams pass on QB’s until early second.

        • JMC says:

          Ryan, I think your right.

          My hunch is that there will not be the big run on QBs in round #1 as some are anticipating. It certainly would be better for the Patriots if there is; players like Cam Jordan and Catazanno might be available at #28- so it would be good if it happened.

          Some have linked Jimmy Smith to Baltimore at #26.

          It will be interesting to see where Bowers goes. If he is there at #28, do the Patriots pick him?- thinking maybe his rookie year is for rehab and learning the defense.

        • Jared says:

          I think its safe to say that Cam Jordan, Da’quan Bowers, and JMCs boy Catazanno will ALL be gone by pick 28.

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