2017 NFL Draft Live Chat, Rounds 4-7

NEPD Staff Writer: Mike Gerken

Well, the Patriots made a couple of picks last night and I would think most fans are happy going into Day 3. I will go in depth on all the picks after the draft, but both players were in my big board series, so you can get some quick notes on them now if you like. There is a lot of talent still on the board and the Patriots can still get some players who can make this team and have an impact this season. With the draft picks that will be made today as well as the UDFA guys that will be added later, this is the day good teams can become great. I love the idea of teams unearthing hidden talent and getting those Day 3 gems. The Patriots have found success in the later rounds and I think today will be no different. Good luck to all the draftees today and lets hope the Patriots can keep up the positive momentum from last night.

 

172 Responses to “2017 NFL Draft Live Chat, Rounds 4-7”

  1. Tommy G says:

    PFF is saying that Jacob Hollister is a steal with comparable to Julia Thomas. I saw Highlights and he looks like a beast doesn’t block much but I see some Travis Kelce in him.

  2. macspak says:

    Russell, what happened with that NH all purpose back

  3. Stephen J says:

    Yes love this one

    Jason Thompson has reached an UFA agreement with the New England Patriots.

  4. Stephen J says:

    Mark Daniels

    Patriots have signed UDFA LB Harvey Langi

  5. Stephen J says:

    Krishawn Hogan, WR, Marian signing with #Colts

  6. Stephen J says:

    There it is

    Josh Augusta, DT, Missouri is signing with the #Patriots per @todpalmer

  7. dovla says:

    Will you guys have a UDFA tracker this year just for Pats or again for entire NFL?

  8. Russell says:

    Don’t think DE Dimik got drafted??

  9. Stephen J says:

    Packers picked Devante Mays RB Utah St happy for him

  10. Stephen J says:

    PFF on Antonio Garcia
    477 pass block snaps
    7 pressures allowed
    0 sacks allowed
    98.9 pass blocking efficiency (2nd out of 99)

  11. Stephen J says:

    21 spots to fill with undrafted and free agents.

  12. Mike Gerken says:

    McDermott was one of my best available players left. I think he needs to add strength, but he has the size and athleticism the Patriots look for in their lineman.

  13. Turbo says:

    Now we need some LB, S and WR as UDFA. Let’s hope BB get some of our binkies.

    Josh Augusta DT
    Harvey Langi LB
    David Jones S
    Jalen Myrick CB
    Elijah Lee LB
    Keion Adams EDGE/OLB
    Jimmie Gilbert LB
    Bryan Cox Jr EDGE
    Jerod Evans QB
    Malachi Dupre WR
    Thomas Sperbeck WR
    Austin Carr WR

    These are the guys i like.

    • Stephen J says:

      I knew it was you Turbo who mentioned Augusta that is one I will be watching since Elijah Qualls just came off the board. Still plenty of picks to go though.

      • Turbo says:

        Yeah, Stephen i really like Augusta. He’s still a bit heavy i think, but for that size he’s extremely athletic and a great run stopper. After Branch is gone he may be something special with Valentine.

    • Russell says:

      CB Jalen Myrick was picked by Jacksonville. I would add CB Jack Tocho, RB Crossan, to the list, Not sure if DE Hunter Dimik got drafted?

  14. Stephen J says:

    Wow BB and company really didn’t like this draft class 4 picks the lowest amount ever. 6 picks was the previous lowest total.

  15. Stephen J says:

    We gave up our 7th to move up so we finished drafting

  16. JH says:

    Conor McDermott? Huh?

  17. Stephen J says:

    Wow didn’t expect that

  18. Stephen J says:

    Pats traded up I see now at 211

  19. Mike Gerken says:

    I think the Pats may have traded up into the 6th. I see NE 2 times on the ticker now. Hmmmm

  20. macspak says:

    just saw that Davenport went the pick just before Wise. He was in my mock. Wonder if he was there is BB would have picked him instead of Wise?

    • Stephen J says:

      We may never know but my guess would be no. Garcia is more Pro Ready and Davenport needed more development I’d imagine he would of been later than Garcia but at the same time that is what may have caused BB to come up and get Garcia since both were on his board.

  21. macspak says:

    I’m thinking OL or S with the next pick

  22. macspak says:

    do we have all of next year’s picks or have we traded or been stripped of any?

  23. JH says:

    How is Elijah Qualls stills on the board? I thought he was supposed to be like a second rounder

  24. Mike Gerken says:

    Still quite a few picks until the Pats are back on the clock, but is there anyone you really want that is still on the board?

  25. macspak says:

    Earle, I am having trouble of understanding your last 2 comments, they appear to say opposite things.

  26. steve earle says:

    The commentators are doing a good job giving us insight on all the first and second round picks. Like hearing about the human aspect of the player as well as his talent.

  27. steve earle says:

    Darn ESPN keeps running round 1 picks on the scroll as if any who cared didn’t already know. Two day old news geese. I want to know what’s happening today, find it annoying not being able to keep up.

  28. macspak says:

    reading through the posts and see the imposter is back

  29. Stephen J says:

    Mike what did you like about James O’shaugnessy in 2015 that he was a binkie. Also shows you that possibly someday maybe not right away binkies come home.

    • Mike Gerken says:

      I thought he was a smooth mover with good hands and an above average blocker. I am trying to find my old notes on him, but they might be on my old computer. I will post if I find them.

  30. macspak says:

    Hi guys, just joining. Saturdays are busy days for me. What has happened?

    • Stephen J says:

      1 Pick

      Deatrich Wise Jr with the 131st pick

      2nd Pick 183 traded for Chiefs TE James O’shaugnessy and the 216th Pick in the 6th.

      Next Pick is that 216th Pick

      • macspak says:

        Thx – who the heck is James O and how many TE’s now on the roster?

        • Stephen J says:

          Mike Gerken knows more about him than I do but I came across this earlier

          James O’Shaughnessy had the most Special Teams tackles of any Tight End in the NFL last season. Another proven commodity instead of unknown. Adds depth to the roster.

  31. Mike Gerken says:

    Guys I like who are still available on Offense:
    Conor McDermott, OT
    Jerry Ugokwe, OT
    Dan Skipper, OT

    Jon Toth, C

    Eric Saubert, TE

    Malachi Dupre, WR
    Noah Brown, WR
    Robert Davis, WR
    Trent Taylor, WR

    De’Veon Smith, RB

    Brad Kaaya, QB
    Jerod Evans, QB

  32. JH says:

    Y’all just ignore his As$ he just wants attention don’t give it to him

  33. Stephen J says:

    Wow just noticed Brian Hill to the Falcons the 3 headed monster attack.

  34. steve earle says:

    Nope not me again.

  35. Mike Gerken says:

    Guys I like who are still available on Defense:
    Brian Allen, Cb
    Channing Stibling, CB
    Xavier Coleman, CB

    Xavier Woods, S
    Nathan Gerry, S

    Joe Mathis, Edge
    Ifeadi Odenigbo, Edge
    Keionte Daves, Edge
    Fadol Brown, Edge

    Ben Boulware, LB
    Henry Langi, LB

    Davon Godchaux, DL

  36. Turbo says:

    I can’t even believe it myself, but so far i like all of the Browns picks. They are A+ for me so far.

    • steve earle says:

      Disagree they take a QB who had a soph year of struggles and incompleations, will not play this year perhaps next and when he does he will be be playing catch up. Most critical need for them and they muffed it IMO.

  37. Stephen J says:

    A Bunch of plays by Deatrich Wise against Missouri

    https://twitter.com/MyColtsAccount/status/819001696013680640

  38. Stephen J says:

    I thought Jakes Butt was already taken. Tee.

  39. Stephen J says:

    Trey Hendrickson got the @Shrine_Game notoriety, but Deatrich Wise Jr. was the real story. 8 pressures (2 sacks) and 5 stops

  40. Mike Gerken says:

    The Patriots have done exactly what I thought they would do. Draft a guy who can learn and replace Ninkovich next year and draft a guy who can replace the Chandler Jones role. Add in a long term Left Tackle, and this has been a strong draft so far.

    The talent in this draft is so deep, I think there will still be good players available when they pick next.

    • steve earle says:

      I’m hoping for some ILB depth and a slot CB. I have Eric Wilson ILB and Xavior Coleman CB in mind. What’s on your board Mike?

  41. steve earle says:

    This is not me guys some smart a$$ Pat’s hater is on board. Likely the same a$$ hole who pretended to be Russell Easterbrooks a couple years back. Hay fella take a flying leap and get a life.

  42. Daniel Sullivan says:

    I like the what the Patriots are doing very much. Other players
    for possible picks are.
    Lorenzo Jerome S Saint Francis
    Damien Mama G USC
    Jarron Jones DT Notre Dame

    There should be a lot of UDFA that could help Patriots.

  43. Turbo says:

    I don’t like the Wise pick, it was a reach too i think, but we still have 2 pick.

    We still need a safety and a lb. Langi would be obvious if he’s still there or Marquel Lee maybe.
    For safety Nate Gerry or David Jones. My joker guy is Josh Augusta DT.

    • steve earle says:

      Question? Thought someone reported BB traded our 5th for a 6th and 7th. Was that legit?
      Agree with Turbo we should get another LB, is Eric Wilson still on the board, I’m losing track. Not sure Saf is current need but if a good one is still around I’m good with that. Then how about Jake Butts TE. He prob won’t play until next year but really good investment.

      • Turbo says:

        We traded our 5th for the Chiefs 6th (216) + TE James O’Shaughnessy.

        And yeah, i think Eric Wilson is still there. Butt is gone tho.

        • steve earle says:

          Constantly playing catch up here. Running from computer to TV in bedroom. Getting my exercise, doctor will be pleased. LOL

      • steve earle says:

        Nope Jake Butts is gone.

    • Mike Gerken says:

      I honestly think you are selling the Wise pick short. That is right where he should have gone and I think he is a great fit for the Patriots. There was a lot of talent on the board, but this is a solid pick IMO

  44. Mike Gerken says:

    Wise went right where I thought he would go. I like the pick don’t love it. I thought there were other players on the board that filled bigger needs, but I did think Wise would be a target. Here is what I wrote earlier about him:

    Deatrich Wise, Arkansas (6’5″, 274 Lbs.): Wise fits the body type the Patriots look for in their Defensive Ends. To go along with his frame, he boasts really long arms and huge hands and he uses them well. He extends well, keeping defenders off him and directing them where he wants them to go. He has a good first step and a powerful punch to stun lineman, getting them off balance and out of sorts. He is strong at the point of attack and does a nice job setting the edge. Wise is not a great pass rusher. He lacks the necessary change of direction and lower body flexibility to consistently be effective. His pass rush counter moves are undeveloped and he relies purely on his strength to get pressure on the QB. He is a former teammate of current Patriot Defensive End Trey Flowers and the team may want to go to the well one more time after Flowers has shown to play well above his draft slot so far in his young career. Grade: 4th round

  45. JH says:

    I don’t think there’s any safeties worth drafting if Xavier Woods is off the board by the time we’re on the clock again. Assuming our last picks stand, I would want any combination of

    LB’s Dylan Cole/Harvey Langi
    DT Grover Stewart
    G/C Chase Roullier

  46. steve earle says:

    Our #131 deadrich wise Jr. DE Ark.

    • steve earle says:

      6-5 278 has the size but not very fast 40. no other times yet. Rated a 4th rd’er on draft scout. Had a couple other guys in mind though.

    • steve earle says:

      Reports not encouraging. slow lat movement not much twitch, can’t find shuttle or 3 cone times.

  47. JH says:

    Deatrich Wise… didn’t see that coming. First pick I’m kinda disappointed in, I didn’t think we needed to double dip.

  48. Mike Gerken says:

    Another solid pick for the Patriots. I think most fans thought Wise would be on the Patriots board. We have a big gap here now.

  49. Glenn says:

    Carlos Watkins?

  50. Jack says:

    Sharpe to Raiders, Pats picking soon. Have there been any hard falls the Pats should scoop up?

    • JH says:

      Would say Jake Butt but it’s looking unlikely we get him due to the trade for James O’Shaughnessy

  51. JH says:

    I’m hoping for Xavier Woods here

  52. Mike Gerken says:

    Ebukam goes, was a later round guy I liked

  53. Mike Gerken says:

    Please do not ruin this chat with childish antics. I don’t want to have to shut it down. 9 picks until the Patriots are on the clock

  54. JH says:

    James O’Shaughnessy was also a binkie of mine when he came out. I wanted the Pats to target Jake Butt, however I don’t think they will now since they basically used a draft pick to acquire one.

  55. Stephen J says:

    Someone is having fun. Where are we at now pick wise.

  56. Turbo says:

    Please get another handle mate. The comment at 12:42 is me, comment at 12:49 Not mine!!

  57. Daniel Sullivan says:

    A bunch of waste of human beings got on the Patriots draft web site.

  58. JH says:

    The fact that someone would spend their free time messing with people on a New England Patriots blog obviously need to reevaluate they’re life priorities.

  59. JH says:

    Daniel Sullivaan sounds like an Irish whino that likes college men.

  60. Stephen J says:

    Carl Lawson to Cincy, and Turbo, speak for yourself.

  61. JH says:

    Do you guys see King as a SS? Slot corner? I feel like those are only two needs in the secondary and I thought King was a boundary corner or free safety

  62. Daniel Sullivan says:

    Patriots drafting small school players so far and you never know they may end up
    with one of the University New Hampshire players.

  63. Turbo says:

    I really watch football for those really tight pants on the players, I bet Stephen feels the same.

  64. Turbo says:

    All my 3rd day safeties are basically gone. Don’t like this.

  65. Daniel Sullivan says:

    Green Bay with Kevin King, Josh Jones, Montavious Adams and now Biegel are having an A+ draft, and Stephen, I’m wearing my lucky jock strap , wanna see.

  66. Stephen J says:

    What pick are we at did it start yet.

  67. Stephen J says:

    You guys are my eyes and ears today since there was complaints last night keep me informed to where we are at who was selected.

  68. Stephen J says:

    Why is Carl Lawson still on the board?? Hey Mike G, what are you wearing right now??

  69. Mike Gerken says:

    Finally getting a chance to look at my lists instead of going off the top of my head. My goodness there is a lot of players I still like for this team.

  70. Stephen J says:

    James O’Shaughnessy had the most Special Teams tackles of any Tight End in the NFL last season. Another proven commodity instead of unknown. Adds depth to the roster.

  71. Daniel Sullivan says:

    4 Zach Banner G USC
    6 Jalen Reeves Mabin ILB Tennessee
    6 Deatrich Wise DE Arkansas
    7 Andres Knappe OT Connecticut
    7 John Johnson S Boston College

  72. Mike Gerken says:

    Patriots already active today. They trade their 5th round pick to the Chiefs for James O’shaugnessy and a 6th or 7th pick. I am reading conlficting reports

  73. Turbo says:

    Prospects i like for us:

    Rayshawn Jenkins S
    Desmond King S/CB
    Marquel Lee LB
    Joe Mathis DE
    George Kittle TE
    Tedric Thompson S
    Eddie Jackson S
    Xavier Woods S
    Avery Moss DE
    Jake Butt TE
    Howard Wilson CB

  74. Mike Gerken says:

    My best players available are:
    Desmond King, CB/S
    Joe Mathis, Edge
    Dorian Johnson, OG
    Chad Hansen, WR
    Vince Beigel, LB
    Carl Lawson, Edge
    Bucky Hodges, TE

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