Scouting Report: Quinten Rollins, CB

Can this former basketball player turned corner make it in the NFL?

Can this former basketball player turned corner make it in the NFL?

NEPD Staff Writer: Mike Gerken

The Green Bay game this past Sunday was an eye opener.  I tweeted after the game that the inability of the Patriots to draft/develop corners could be their Achilles heal.  The list of names that the Patriots have drafted with high picks in the secondary that have not worked out is too long to list here.  Revis and Browner have played well and Arrington does fine in the slot, but the others have really struggled.  If Revis leaves after this season, there will be a huge hole to fill at the corner position, so I decided to look at one of the lesser known names that could rise up draft boards fast with a good all-star game and combine.

Name: Quinten Rollins

School: Miami (OH), senior

Height: 6’0″

Weight: 205 lbs.

Positives:

At 6’0″, Rollins has nice size and frame for the position. A natural athlete, he played basketball (point guard) for Miami before switching over to football for his senior campaign and his time on the court shows in his smooth movements.  Rollins shows good balance in his back pedal and an ability to turn his hips and run without losing speed or momentum.  He has very good hands and anticipates pass routes well, which is why he is currently tied for 3rd in the nation with 7 interceptions.  He also boasts good straight line speed as well as explosiveness in his lower body in and out of cuts.  During certain games, Rollins looked like he was running the offensive routes rather than defending them.  He is also one of the better tacklers that I’ve watched so far from the corner position. He has good tackling fundamentals and for the most part is willing to come up and put a hit on opposing players.

 

Negatives:

With only one year of football experience, Rollins is very raw and relies on his athleticism over fundamentals to make plays. He peeks into the backfield a little too much, which can lead him to lose track of the man that he is supposed to be covering.  In the game against Michigan, Rollins struggled with double moves and seemed to get turned around several times.  He lacks consistency in his tackling and covering efforts and looked almost bored at times. He also tends to bail out of his backpedal early and open his hips to run with receivers.

 

Overall:

This cannot be stressed enough, but Rollins has only played one year of college ball.  He is raw and has some issues to work out, but they are all correctable.   His smooth movements, athleticism, ball skills, and tackling are better than some of the top cornerback prospects that have played for 3 or 4 years.  Teams will need to be patient with him as he most likely won’t start day one, but he can certainly be a contributor in year one.  With good coaching and his natural talent, he has potential to be a very good to great corner in the NFL.  Because Rollins played in a smaller conference and is raw, I think it is likely that he will be drafted early on day 3 but his talent and potential could push him up into late day 2.

 

 

38 Responses to “Scouting Report: Quinten Rollins, CB”

  1. rmc says:

    Just look at some of the CB’s we have drafted and look at their 1st years. Butler, Mcourty Dennard, Ryan. They have all had prettty good rookie seasons. Then they come in 2nd season and can’t do the same, . Common denominator here is Josh Boyer. These rookies need to be taught proper technique in the pro’s. Boyer is not going to coach Revis and Browner, they have more experience then him. He has not been a good coach at any level he has been in and he has not established himself anywhere but on the Pats. He is doing a disservice to the team, but also to the players looking to improve. Darius Butler is doing pretty well in Indy. It is my opinion that a good established secondary coach from the college ranks would be better suited here.

    • steve earle says:

      Interesting points rmc but wouldn’t BB have picked up on it if Boyer couldn’t do the job? Not saying your right or wrong just that Boyer is not new at the job and surely if he was teaching the wrong things the HC would be aware of it. Am I wrong?

    • MaineMan says:

      I think this is one of those situations in which generalizing without regard to the context of evolving roles, schemes and rosters – with the goal of identifying a common denominator which, if “fixed”, could solve all the perceived problems – is really a good way to lead oneself astray.

      The primary example is McCourty. He was an exceptional zone-read corner coming out of college, who’d never played man/press-man coverage. In his rookie season, the Pats were still playing primarily a zone-read coverage scheme and McCourty naturally excelled. However, in McCourty’s second season, they made a nearly complete switch to man coverage. Of course, McCourty struggled with it. Suffering bruised ribs mid-season that cost him two games, the complete lack of competent deep safety help, and the early season-ending injuries to the only two other starter-level CBs on the roster (Bodden and Dowling) only made matters worse. Even so, by the playoffs, McCourty had gained quite a bit of competence in man coverage and managed 2 INTs and 12 PDs to go with 90 tackles.

      Even though he’d gotten to be pretty decent at man coverage in 2012, he was moved to deep safety (a full-time “zone-read” type position) round mid-season because everyone else they’d tried there sucked at it – NOT because McCourty was a “failed CB.”

      This season, with Browner and Revis immediately sliding into starting spots, it’s really difficult to imagine that Ryan and Dennard are seeing anywhere near the amount of practice reps that they did in 2013, and even in the reps they’re getting, their roles have changed to the extent that I’m sure they’ve been having to learn a lot of new stuff (Ryan working at safety during the off-season, e.g.).

      • rmc says:

        the fact that Boyer went from secondary coach to just cornerbacks coach was step one, I wouldnt be surprised if he is out in a year or 2. I agree the corners may not be getting as much practice, but the way they play on the field is indicative of how they are coached. I would hope they will learn from bornwe/revis.

        Also he was recommended for the job by Dean Pees, wonder why he didnt look to get him on the Baltimore staff. Just my thoughts

        • steve earle says:

          Okay, valid points, so any recomendations for a replacement?

        • MaineMan says:

          Well, that’s not quite the way it worked.

          In 2008, Capers was effectively the DB coach with Boyer as his assistant. In 2009, Boyer was promoted to DB coach when Capers went to Green Bay as their DC, and had Pat Graham (current Pats LB Coach) effectively as his assistant.

          In 2010 (the first season without Pees at DC), Graham moved into working more with LBs and the Pats brought in Corwin Brown as the Safeties Coach. In 2011, Patricia coached the safeties. Then, in 2012, Brian Flores was promoted from assistant to Safeties Coach while Boyer presided over the switch from zone-read to man coverage for the CBs (a major task, especially considering the almost total lack of healthy, experienced bodies).

          It still seems like you’re reaching to build a case against Boyer without using all the facts.

  2. Russell says:

    Well If Coach Belichick trade’s back out of the first round, how about this for a thought.
    The Patriots send thier 1st draft pick, to Minn. for thier 4th draft pick, and OT Matt Kalil. I think Kalil is playing out of position at LOT, where he is the worst in the NFL. (Sacks allowed, penalties, QB hurries) I think Kalil (who’s brother plays OC at Carolina) should move inside to OG. The Vikings are not happy with Kalil, after being a 1st round pick and having one good year, and a change is forthcoming.
    Just a thought what do you think??

    • steve earle says:

      Gee Russell, off hand my first reaction would be, no way. The idea of aquiring Kalil isn’t bad but why send a 1st fot a failed OT with only a “chance” that he could move inside and be sucessfull. Besides I’m reasonably sure Kalil could be had for a far lower draft pick perhaps a 4th. If not I’d pass.

      • Russell says:

        You maybe right Steve, I just wonder if BB would take a chance on him.

        • steve earle says:

          Don’t know but what would you think of Bill making an offer like this. Trade our 4th this year (#128+/-) and a 6th next year for Kalil then trading down our 1st for a 2nd and 4th this year and 6th next? All of which would be higher picks then we currently have after the 1st.

        • Russell says:

          The more I look into it Steve, Kalil is going to be hard to move. He has one more year on his contract $ 4.92 mil. per year, because he was such an early 1st round draft pick. OT Solder,gets $2.1 mil. per year as the 17th pick in the draft. So Kalil seems to costly, to move, Minn. may have to Cut him. Then of course any team before the Patriots on the wire could sign him for a lessor deal.
          So I guess it’s a bad Idea.

        • steve earle says:

          4.92 mil looks like a deal breaker to me.

        • MaineMan says:

          It’s actually not a terrible thought, Russell.

          Kalil (6065/306 – but heftier now, no doubt – with 34.5″ arms) put up great pre-draft workout numbers – 30 reps, a sub-5:00 40-time, and very good speed in agility drills. he was voted to the Pro Bowl as a rookie, but his last two seasons have been very sub-par as he’s battled through a knee injury for which he had surgery at the end of last season, IIRC.

          Superior lateral agility is a must for an OT, much moreso than for an interior OL. If Kalil’s knee has been hampering him …. With attenuated lateral agility, his long arms become a negative, especially if his technique isn’t top notch, since they’ll contribute to him getting flagged for holding more often (I’ve seen this before). Attenuated lateral agility also hurts him in run-blocking if the Vikes are using a ZBS (which I think they are).

          HOWEVER, the lateral agility thing wouldn’t matter nearly as much as an interior OL, where his strength and long arms would be great assets, especially in a man/power run-blocking scheme, if that’s what the Pats are moving toward.

          So, if the Vikes are convinced that Kalil’s knee issues aren’t going to improve anytime soon, and they don’t want to continue to pay the freight and cut him, he might not be a bad pickup for the Pats as a Guard on a short-term/short-money deal.

        • steve earle says:

          Again MM puts reasoned insight on an issue. I agree if Kalil is released BB should persue signing him but not for anything like 4.92 Mil. Solder gets just over 2 mil, I believe, so something slightly below that would seem a fair offer. If his knees improve in the future all to the good and a contract can be revisited then but until then he should be regarded as an OG.

        • MaineMan says:

          steve –

          Slight correction:

          Solder’s 4th year on his rookie deal, 2014, gives him $2.72M (cap hit). His 5th-year option – which the Pats have exercised, but which doesn’t become guaranteed until the first day of the new league year – gives Solder $7.44M, which barely cracks the Top-15. If he’s in the Pats’ long term plans, they’ll need to get a deal done before the new league year. After that point, that option figure can’t be restructured into a bonus for the purpose of reducing Solder’s 2015 cap hit.

          Anyway, even though your Solder-comparison basis for Kalil might be a tad askew, your salary projection for him is probably close, maybe even a little high if the Vikes cut him outright.

  3. Mike Gerken says:

    A lot of great discussion on here and so much information! I love it. MaineMan, I think you are right, it is not fair to look so narrowly at the failures of the draft, there are so many factors that go into the success or failure of a player after they are drafted. The trend that bothers me the most with CB and WR to a lesser extent is that we have seen guys come in early and have success and instead of building on that success, there seems to be regression. Is it coaching, scheme?
    I always knew Revis was good (duh!!) but his field awareness is unbelievable. He can keep an eye on the QB and still run with a WR regardless of where they go. He is not the fastest, but that ability to stay on the receivers hip while watching the QB is unreal and is something I am now focusing on when watching corners.

    • steve earle says:

      Great observation Mike, I never picked up on that but will watch more closely from now on.

    • Russell says:

      Thanks Mike, we have a great group of knowledgeable people on this site. It’s very enjoyable to read all the info, thanks All !!

  4. steve earle says:

    Looked like the turning point Sun. night was SD punter going out. Still our Def took advantage and shutout the Charges in 2nd half. In 1st place still and road to home field advantage in sight. Take nothing for granted, go Pats.

  5. Russell says:

    With OC/T Cameron Erving looking SO strong last night it’s hard to believe he will be available in the draft when the Patriots pick. If BB is going Oline early , OC/G Grasu, or OG Cain are more likely going to be on the draft board when the Patriots pick in the 1st round. OG Tomlinson looks like a 2nd-3d rounder as of now.
    OLB Xzavier Dickson, and LB Reggie Ragland, for Alabama looked very good. SS Isaiah Johnson played poorly, and seem lost on some plays ???? DE Golden seemed over matched by stronger Olineman all night. CB P.J. Williams showed strong tackling abilities in the run game.

    • Russell says:

      also guys who looked good WR Rashard Green, (FS) DT Michael Bennett,(Ohio S) OG Arie Koundjio( Alabama)

      • nick says:

        koundjio is a first round talent. if he is there first round when we pick he is a must take. dominant. my two top worries are pass rush and o line. wondering how we can put it all together first 3 rounds with multiple picks day 3. i love koundjio and grasu for the o line. erving is good but athletiscm is lacking to my eye. koundjio and grasu are going first two days, wondering if we can get those two plus a pass rush. love the kid from OU jordan phillips – anybody seen him? only other rusher i liked so far is fowler and Hau’Oli Kikaha from washington.

        • Russell says:

          Phillips is an interesting prospect, tho he’s had a couple years of back injuries, that should be factored in. He also has limited experince . I’m a fan of Henry Anderson (Stanford) a 5th year starter, (had a knee issue during part of 2013 ) Also a DT/DE 6’6″ 298lbs runs a 4.98- 40yd.

        • steve earle says:

          Also about Philips, is he’s a red shirt soph so he may not come out, don’t know, still with back injury history I’d be careful.

    • steve earle says:

      About Erving, you probably right about his moving up in the 1st, this guy is good. That happens with OT’s more then OG’s as a rule. I would still like and hope he or one of the top OG’s would be around to improve our o-line. My current thinking is if we must wait until the 2nd then the priority pick needs to go to D-line. Am I wrong, why?

      • Russell says:

        Steve, I think you maybe right. BB may look for an Olineman in the 4th round again as last year, (whch seems to work) and go D with the first pick. Would not be surprised if BB trades back out of te 1st. The only player’s BB may try for are, DT Goldman, LB McKinney, DE/LB Fowler ,OT Erving or OG/C Grasu. I really don’t see any other 1st round guys, (for the Patriots) I like DE Henry Anderson but not sure as a 1st pick .
        Free agents will play a roll in the draft as well, the guy I would try to get is LB Casey Matthews.
        Resigning- Revis, McCourty, Gosthowski, Siliga, and Vereen will be important .

        • steve earle says:

          I’ve had that trade down idea in the back of my mind too. Lots of good prospects but as you say are they 1st rd worthy? Though thinking on it if G Alexander or G Kouandjio is there in 1st, hard to pass up.

  6. MaineMan says:

    When talking about the lack of development of CBs by the Pats, it might be a bit early to be casting Ryan and Dennard in with previous “busts.” This is only Ryan’s 2nd season and only Dennard’s 3rd and both their games are currently suffering in comparison to those of Arrington, Revis and Browner who have 6, 7 and 9 years of professional experience, respectively. Dennard is in an especially bad situation since he’s almost exclusively a perimeter defender (therefore behind both Revis and Browner) who also doesn’t contribute much on ST.

    WRT the development aspect, I wouldn’t characterize the Pats’ draft record as an unmitigated disaster. The players who were drafted as perimeter CBs (as opposed to slot guys/generalized DBs or safeties) have included:

    1st Rd (#27) – McCourty – exceptional zone CB who was slow to adapt to the radical scheme change imposed on him in his second season (going from zone-read to man/press-man). Deep safety is a perfect use of his zone skills, however.

    2nd Rd – Wheatley, Dowling – calculated risks on injury-prone guys that didn’t work out
    ———- Butler – ridiculously athletic, highly rated guy who simply never “got it”; now an okay slot guy for the Colts

    3rd Rd – Hobbs – a decent enough right-side defender (though he couldn’t be left on an island very often) and still the best KR of the BB Era
    ———- Ryan – the jury is still out, IMHO
    ———- you might also include Brock Williams here (#86 pick, 2001) who flamed out in Oakland in only his second season

    4th Rd – Samuel – ummmmm?
    ———- Wilhite – didn’t work out as an edge guy, but became an adequate slot guy/nickel back for four years

    7th Rd – Dennard – jury is still out

    Beyond the above, the Pats have drafted 15 general-DB/safety types over 15 drafts, about half of which were 6th-7th rounders. The most notable of the rest are:
    Meriweather – 1st, #24
    Chung, Eugene Wilson, Tavon Wilson – 2nd Rd
    Guss Scott, Harmon – 3rd Rd
    Dexter Reid, James Sanders – 4th Rd

    It seems to me that this, like WR, is a position for which the Pats have been especially hampered, talent-wise, by almost never having a pick in the Top 20 that BB didn’t engineer himself by trading forward. ATC, it seems to me that the Pats have done “okay” under the circumstances. For every 2nd-round bust the Pats have had, there’s probably at least one or two Morris Claibornes or Kyle Wilsons who’ve busted as 1st-rounders for other teams over the past decade and a half.

    • Russell says:

      Interesting thanks, good to look back. If I was drafting a guy this year say 2nd round, by the Patriots, I would go with CB Kevin Johnson from Wake. Don’t think he makes it to the 3d round for the Patriots but maybe.

      • MaineMan says:

        Thanks, Russell.

        While it’s easy to be disappointed in BB’s failure rate on draft picks, especially at certain positions (I mean, I’m disappointed, too), when viewed in the larger context of the 2000-2012 drafts (leaving the last two draft classes out of it for now) and of the entire league, even BB’s “worst” areas are probably about average.

        I’ve been working on a project to list all the WRs taken by every team in the 2000-2012 drafts to calculate a rough “ROI”. I’m using the draft slot values from the Standard Value Chart as the “investment” and the Career Average Value numbers from pro-football-reference.com for the “return”. Total SVC divided by Total CAV yields Draft Capital Invested per Productivity Point (lower ratios are better).

        While both of these value systems are arguably flawed, neither is something I made up on my own. As long as I apply them consistently to every player/team the ultimate team-to-team comparisons should be reasonably proportionate.

        So far, the standouts are PIT (16 draftees at 14.43) and GBY (18 draftees at 14.45). The worst is, not unexpectedly, DET (14 draftees, at a whopping 63.44 per productivity point). BB comes out at 21.77 for 11 draftees (not including Edelman, btw).

        The most obvious flaw in this method is that teams that typically draft in the Top-15 year-after-year (e.g., DET) will always look worse than the those that rarely do (e.g., PIT, GBY and the Pats), so, ultimately, I’ll need to find a way to factor in average 1st-round draft position. OTOH, even now it’s easy to see that BB has not done as well as other teams with a likely comparable average 1st-round position (GBY, PIT), though he’s invested significantly less overall in the WR position than they have (2000 SVC versus 3300 SVC and 3600 SVC, respectively).

        I hope to compete the WRs and at least a couple other positions before the 2015 draft.

        Of course, the caveat here is that the draft represents only ONE source of personnel-acquisition for a General Manager, and it probably isn’t fair to criticize BB’s performance in that role based on his drafting performance alone.

        • Russell says:

          Very interesting Maineman, great detail!!
          Because the Patriots draft so close to the end of each round, your always looking ahead to the next round for players by value, for the round your drafting in. Also cost of drafted players maybe part of the process as well. A 1st round player is more costly, than a 2nd round player. I think BB likes to draft players in the 3-5th rounds, as thier cost will be less, so if they don’t work out your value/loss is not as high. If they do work out the Value exceeds the choice, and the cost is lower than the Value ,often for 3-4 years.

        • MaineMan says:

          Thanks, Russell!

          Now, let’s see if I can actually get this project done!

          I’m not really sure how much $cost enters into BB’s calculations, if at all. While it true that the contracts for guys drafted in the 21-29 range (Chandler, HT, Easley) are roughly double the contracts of guys drafted from 48-62 (Wilson, Collins, Dobson, Garoppolo), we’re still only talking first year cap hits in the $1.5M to $623k range with a maximum total >4-yearaverage annual< cap hit for a successful guy who's retained on a second contract.

          I think BB trading down from the late first has a lot more to do with the point value BB and the scouts have assigned to each prospect who's still on the board at 27, 29, 32, (whatever), in combination with how they perceive the "real" demand for the various prospects who are likely to be available between the Pats 1st-rounder and (late) 2nd-rounder (as opposed to Kiper's projections). If all those prospects are rated within a half point or so of each other and the demand seems about equal for them all, by trading down for an extra 2nd-rounder, BB doubles his odds of hitting on one of them.

  7. Dan Sullivan says:

    BB give Gray another big chance we all have great respect for your rules but being late for work can happen to the best of them.

    Big weekend for College Football and here is my latest for Patriots draft.
    1 Sammie Coates WR Auburn
    2 Markus Golden DE Missouri
    3 Rob Havenstein OT Wisconsin
    4 Reggie Ragland ILB Alabama
    4 Jeremy Langford RB Michigan State
    5 Shaq Mason G Georgia Tech
    7 Hakim Jones S NC State

    To all Red Sox Fans the next steps to get us back in World Series should be
    James Shields and David Robertson.

  8. Russell says:

    Interesting article Mr. Gerken. The Patriots have a poor track record with CB’s and WR’s and I think it’s because them don’t look at prospects right, IMO. Scouts are always watching back peddle, turning hips to run, hand use by CB’s etc. all very important. However I would look at what a guy brings to the team. There are lots of college CB’s to look at, but here is a guy I think is an outstanding prospect. Kevin Johnson CB Wake, (I have watched in person) 6′ 182Lbs , 4.56 40yd. Notice his 40 time just average, faster guys get more scouting looks. Johnson use’s good technical ability, use’s angles better,and is strong tackler in the pass or run game . If you watch the speical teams tape, Johnson looks just like Matthew Slater. A very sound technical player. One of the leading pass break-up players in College football, but listed as a 4-5 round draft pick? I like what he does on Speical teams, and that is were he will start if he’s a Patriot, much the same as Arrington started out. Johnson’s abilities make him a good outside CB at the NFL level, (Not a slot cover guy) because of how he uses the sidelines, in his coverage,…I’d list him as a 2nd round guy for my team.

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