2014 New England Patriots UDFA Signings and Analysis

James Morris has a good chance of making the 53-man roster.

NEPD Editor: Mike Loyko

The 2014 NFL Draft just wrapped up, but the roster building continues. Signing undrafted free agents has been an important compenent to the Patriots organization over the last decade plus and this year is no different. Last year the Patriots had mulitple undrafted players make their roster and make an impact, don’t under-estimate the importance of these players.

Here is a list of the players the New England Patriots have signed to a rookie contract and a quick scouting report on what they bring to the table.

Justin Jones, TE, East Carolina – Jones is one of the biggest Tight Ends to ever enter the NFL. He stands over 6’8″ tall and is nearly 280 pounds. He sat out the 2013 season due to an eligibility issue otherwise he probably gets drafted. Jones’ key to success is obvious his size and catch radius. Not only is he 6’8″ tall, he also has a 37″ vertical leap and over a 400 lbs. bench press. His role in the NFL is likely to be that of a move Tight End, as he’s not a good blocker, in fact he played a bit of a hybrid role Wide Receiver role for the Pirates. Lots of teams had interest in his services, but the Patriots won out. Jones will have the opportunity to earn a roster spot.

Asa Watson, TE, North Carolina State – Asa is the brother of former Patriots 1st Round pick Ben Watson. He’s also from the same high school and town that produced Jadeveon Clowney. Watson is a “move” TE standing 6’3″ 237 pounds and ran a respectable 4.69 40 during the draft process. He was forced to sit out the 2011 season after undergoing heart surgery and never was given the opportunity to be a prime time target at NC State. His size-speed combination is something attractive to NFL teams and like Jones will have a chance based on the lack of Tight Ends on the Patriots roster.

James Morris, LB, Iowa - A predictable signing by the Patriots. Each year they seem to sign at least one UDFA from Iowa and Morris is the Hawkeye’s best undrafted player. A team captain that had four years of strong production in the Big Ten. Morris can play in the middle or slide out to Weakside Linebacker and he projects as a Special Teams standout. He’s a little undersized, at 6’1″ 241, but he ran in the 4.6-4.7 range and has strong football instincts. Looking at the Patriots LB depth chart, Morris has a good chance to win one of the final roster spots, especially if he shows well on Special Teams.

Roy Finch, RB, Oklahoma – Finch is a diminutive (5’7/177), dynamic, and exiciting change of pace RB. He exploded onto the OU stage as a Freshman, making highlight reel runs, catching the ball out of the backfield, and breaking off big plays. After that it was all downhill for Finch. He got in Bob Stoops doghouse and he could never escape. When you watch Finch the first thing that stands out is his explosive start-stop ability. He can make defenders miss and is tough to square up because of his quickness. He’ll never be an everydown back, but as a 3rd down player and possible returnman he can carve out a bigger role in the NFL than he did at Oklahoma.

Jeremy Deering, SAF, Rutgers – Surprise, surprise the Patriots signed a Rutgers defensive back. Deering blew away NFL scouts at his Pro Day by running a 4.33 40 yard dash and a 3-Cone of 6.78 seconds. Deering is a bit of a Swiss Army knife. In 2010 he finished second on the team in rushing and started five games as a Wide Receiver. In 2011 he moved from Receiver to Running Back, but most of his success came on Kick Returns. He finished 4th Nationally with an impressive 31.2 yard/return average. He only moved to Free Safety before the 2013 season and ended up starting 10 games for the Scarlet Knights. Projecting him to the NFL, his value will come on Special Teams coverage and return units. His primary position remains a little clouded, but I’d guess he’s a Free Safety in the eyes of the Patriots.

Travis Hawkins, CB, Delaware – A former University of Maryland transfer that went on to earn three letters at Delaware. Hawkins was one of the top Defensive Backs in the CAA over the last two seasons, but his value in the NFL might come in from his return ability. He ran a 4.37 40 at his Pro Day and averaged over 27 yards per return. Standing almost 5’10″ and 192 pounds, Hawkins bench pressed 225 20 times, had a 34″ vertical jump, 10’8″ broad jump, 4.32 short shuttle, and 6.80 3-Cone. His speed is something to keep an eye on, but as of right now he has to be considered a long shot to stick.

Tyler Beck, TE/FB, Bowling Green – Beck is an under the radar kid whose height probably makes him a Fullback or H-Back in the NFL. A three time All-Academic MAC selection, but he hasn’t made much of an impact on the field. Over his four year playing career Beck has amassed only 25 career receptions including a career high 10 catches in 2013. At Bowling Green’s pro day he ran in the 4.80 range in the 40. He’s a very long shot to stick around past the summer.

Tyler Ott, LS, Harvard – One of the top two long snappers in the 2014 NFL Draft. There isn’t much more to be said for this pick up other than it will add competition for Danny Aiken and that is never a bad thing.

Cameron Gordon, OLB, Michigan – Gordon is a 5th year Senior Linebacker, a 4-year Letterwinner, and 3-Time All-Academic Big Ten Selection. Played in 45 total games with only 10 starts, Gordon was primarily a Special Teams Linebacker for the maize and blue after bouncing around positions early in his career. He moved from Wide Receiver to Safety in 2010 and from Safety to Outside Linebacker in 2011. At the Michigan Pro Day he was timed at 4.72 in the 40 yard dash. His experience as a Strongside Linebacker isn’t extensive enough to get excited about. This is a Special Teams pick up and we know how much Bill Belichick likes these types of players.

Stephen Houston, RB, Indiana – Houston is a Running Back the Patriots showed some interest during the Pre-Draft process. He possesses an NFL build and body type standing 5’10 3/8 – 225. He ran a 4.52 at Indiana’s Pro Day and posted better than average agility numbers. Originally from Little Rock, Arkansas he spent his Freshman season at Independence CC in Kansas before transferring to IU. Houston is a two year starter with experience catching the ball out of the backfield and returning kicks. As a Senior he rushed for 753 yards, but averaged over 6.5 yards per carry. As a Junior he caught 37 balls, which is an impressive number for a back of his size. Given the state of the Patriots RB depth, Houston is a definite candiate to contend for a roster spot or a practice squad slot.

Ja-Mes Logan, WR, Ole Miss – A big bodied Wide Receiver with four years of starting (part time) experience in the SEC. Logan stands 6’2″/192 and ran a very pedestrian 4.69 40 at the Ole Miss Pro Day. His reception total increased each of the last four seasons peaking with 44 total catches in 2013. Logan was invited to the East-West Shrine Game and caught 3 passes in the game. He’s already graduated with a Bachelors Degree in Criminal Justice.

Deontae Skinner, LB, Mississippi State – A 3 year starter a Linebacker, Skinner finished second on MSU with 64 total tackles in 2013. He played primarily Outside in college, but his size and speed might push him to the interior. He ran a 4.81 40 at the Bulldog’s Pro Day and put up respectable agility numbers. His key to sticking in the NFL will be on Special Teams, but with the lack of depth on the Patriots roster he’ll have a chance to compete.

Seali’i Epenesa, DT, UCLA – Signing is confirmed by UCLA Head Coach Jim Mora. Epenesa is a two year starter on a talent and prosepct rich defensive line. Epenesa is a 6’1″/310 pound run defender and plugger. His primary role in the UCLA defense was to occupy blockers and plug run gaps. He won’t bring anything to the interior pass rush and is a long shot to stick.

Malcolm Butler, CB, West Alabama (Tryout or Signing Unknown) – Butler’s Head Coach tweeted out that he’s signed with the Patriots. 5’11″/180 pound defense back was an All-GSC Selection at Cornerback in 2013 after breaking up 16 passes. Butler averaged over 27 yards per kick return last season.

Calvin Tonga, NT, Colorado State (Tryout or Signing Unknown) – The biggest Defensive Lineman in the Mountain West Conference (6’3″/330 lbs). Tonga spent two seasons at Colorado State after transferring from Arizona Western Junior College. He started 12 games in 2013 and finished the season with 24 tackles including 2.5 TFL. He projects as a pure run stuffing Nose Tackle in the NFL.

Deylan Buntyn, DL, North Carolina State – A 6’3″ 323 pound Nose Tackle that originally attended Junior College at New Mexico Military Institute. He played in 11 games in 2013 with zero starts in only 4 total tackles. I’d be interested to know if this is a signing or a tryout. There isn’t much to his resume to get excited about.

Jordan Love, CB, Towson (Tryout) - A transfer from the University of Georgia. Two-year starter at Corner, Love had a very productive Senior season, breaking up 10 passes and piling up 62 total tackles. He was suspended for the FCS National Championship Game, which raises some red flags about his maturity. He measured in at 5’11″/189 and ran a 4.59 40 at Towson’s Pro Day. He’s coming in on a tryout which means he doesn’t count against the 90 man roster limit.

Donnie Owens, DT, Winston Salem State (Rumored)

Tags: James Morris, Justin Jones, Undrafted Free Agents

92 Responses to “2014 New England Patriots UDFA Signings and Analysis”

  1. Asteniah says:

    So Lyerla got his shot and is at a packers tryout now. Any chance of snatching him now?

  2. Jim R says:

    Nuke Richardson………..interesting

  3. Jack Trudel says:

    The UFAs have reported in for orientation. Maybe we should call them UFOs because many are among the missing.

    Tyler Beck, a TE from Bowling Green, was signed and later released. LS Charley Hughlett, a yr old free agent from the Cowboys signed back in March was released as well.

    Justin Jones impressed me in his interview with the press. He was well spoken and displayed a quiet confidence as he talked about what he’s been doing in the off-season to prepare for camp. He sounds like he can step in and contribute in multiple roles on special teams.

    Finch, Gary, Gordon, Hawkins, Houston, Jones, Skinner and Watson have reported.

    It’s been five days and no mention yet about James Morris, Jeremy Deering, Tyler Ott, Ja-mes Logan, Seali’i Epenesa, Malcolm Butler, Cal Tonga, Deylan Buntyn, Jordan Love or Donnie Owens. None of them have shown up in other camps either but I haven’t looked that hard for them.

  4. gymrat says:

    Antonio Richardson n colt lyera r most talented out there. By far. Seantrel Henderson would have been better than stork dork. When he matures he will b a dominant impact lineman. Just needs a structured environment. Dork will never dominate he lacks the physical skills. I don’t care how smart he plays in the scheme. You can’t double the whole dline, at some point u have to block an Atkins,quinn ,smith or clowney or Sheldon Richardson one on one. The best olines can block one on one. Another thing our interior online lacks with mankind clearly in decline. Halepino is the only lineman we drafted with any potential.he is powerful,played hurt and quicker than credited for. He n cannon we could have something cooking in the interior online. Cannon has Carl nicks ability just needs to be mean consistently. Would b nice for online to punch defenses in the mouth for a change. Seantrel Henderson would have been nice as backup tackle if Vollmer goes down. Antonio Richardson is best option to sign. Veldheer would have been nice rather than resigning edelman. Edelman needed to b upgraded over not resigned. Notice he got no fa offers. Teams knew his catches r manufactured. Just like lafells team didn’t want him back.

  5. steve earle says:

    Lets get serious and take a breath now. Seems to me to much excitement and expectations are being expressed about our udfa’s. Yes there are guys that may have skill sets that excite but really what are the chances any of them make the team. Odds are against them otherwise they would have been drafted. BB has a good record of finding a couple every year and expect this year will be no different but identifying which one or two is anyone’s guess.

    • Mark M. says:

      I can easily see 6-7 UDFA making the 53 man roster! These are players that would have been drafted in the last three rounds of any other years draft. This years draft is so deep that the SEC Defensive Player of the Year nearly went undrafted!

      Just for comaprison look at Stephen Houston’s stats vs Stevan Ridley’s one year of production at LSU. Ridley is an inch taller, and is much slower than Houston. Houston has him in every test measurement except 3-cone drill! Ridley was a 3rd round pick. Houston is a better receiver and doesn’t fumble like Ridley!

      Bottom line will result in the teams bottom third of the roster will be as good as its ever been. Competition in camp should be insane!

    • acm says:

      yeah, some of us may have gotten a bit too excited a tad too early. It’s a deep draft class but other teams aren’t exactly sleeping on it either.

      Personally, I expect to see RB Houston and LB Morris make the team. From the rest, I’d say TE Jones, RB Finch, LB Gordon and LS Ott have the best shot at sticking around.

  6. Davy M says:

    This draft wasn’t flashy at all, but lets face it. Unless the jets,bills or dolphins somehow end up with 4 first rounders in the top 15 and sign drew brees, Aaron Rodgers, or payton maning and Brady gets hurt. They got this division on lock for at least 3 years. Dan is a fool and probably a jets or dolphins fan. I am sure he is fed up with two decades of mediocrity. Even when the pats take a step back every once in a while, the jets choke. Isn’t that right mr ladainian Tomlinson, and mr farve. Even HOF Couch Parcels could only take them so far. So relax Dans of the world, we got this

    • steve earle says:

      Well giving credit where credit is due let’s recall that the majority of our super bowl winning team members were assembled by Percells not BB.

      • acm says:

        that is certainly true. an inconvenient trurh, I might say.

      • bmp1113 says:

        Yes Willie, Troy Brown, Ty Law, Teddy, and Milloy were a big part of the 2001 team (-Malloy in 03, 04) but they were hardly the majority. Parcells drafted 4 starters on the super bowl team. BBs 2000+2001 draft added Seymore, Light, Brady and he brought in Smith, Compton, Antowain Smith, and others that year too. In 2003 and 2004 they were almost completely brought in by Belichick. More credit should be given to Carroll if you want to talk about how many players they brought in. It is also a misconception that Parcels had final say in the drafting process and he admittedly didnt make any of the 1996 picks (Malloy, Bruschi). Kraft seperated scouting and coaching at that time. Teams are constantly being built and changed so every coach has a piece in the team but the average nfl career isnt 6-8 years. Parcells was a good coach but those super bowl teams in 2001 and after were definitely not mostly his team.

    • acm says:

      Well, I’d like to believe the Pats are a team that are aiming higher than just winning the division, which btw will be even tougher this year. So, I’d think the Dans of the world are not worried how the team stacks up vs the Jets, Dolphins, Bills but rather the Broncos, 49ers and Seahawks.

  7. J H TARBORO says:

    In taking a look at FA and how we drafted players in this draft, i like what we did. We added offensive line depth and that’s the position which was most impacting for the Pats, looking back in hindsight. The TE position in bringing in UDFAs is about role players and depth, which is very smart. The DT/NT position is interesting based on what we have and the players brought in, including D. Easley and 4 big UDFAs. It looks like 3-4 defensive front with huge rotation and 4-3 hybrid with multiple schemes and personel groupings. RBs, a combo of power backs, change of pace, and a scat back with the addition of Roy Finch jr. who can do everything asked of him with no fear! LBs, we will see but i think they fond solid UDFAs and had a few picked up before the draft. I really believe for once that our secondary will be quite good. Let’s get to work and make all the pieces fit!

  8. AM says:

    Love the James Morris signing. Also, wonder what it would take to get Jordan Cameron, Cameron Jordan, and Cameron Gordon on the same team?

  9. Ryan says:

    Here are a few thoughts I had on the draft:

    1. Very boring, yet if they Patriots stuck to their board and continuously took the BPA, that’s all I can ask for. There wasn’t a Tavon Wilson, or Duron Harmon in this class. So I think regardless of not drafting a TE or more DL it was a win.

    2. Some teams are going to have some pretty good cast offs. SF and Seattle being two I would keep my eye on. They have a very deep team and they can’t keep them all.

    3. After the first 4 TE’s came off the board, I don’t think there was a need to address the position. It sounds like the Pats didn’t like CJF, therefore, after the first four went pretty high, I don’t think they intended to address them. That being said I think there is some hope in the UDFA class. Also, Pettigrew could be expendable, or maybe for a fourth – fifth round pick.

    4. I have to think Ridley and Bolden could be on the outside looking in. I think there are a few UDFA’s that could take those spots and never give them back.

    5. Quite a bit of talk surrounding Easley, and him coming back stronger than before. I want to say it was someone with Seattle said they anticipated him coming back stronger much like Tommy John surgery.

    6. Can’t complain about OL help, in fact we have needed it for years. I personally see Flemming as more of a guard, but I don’t get paid to scout. That being said if ONE of those guys can kick Dan C. out, it will be worth it. I think the idea here was to save some CAP money and get better/cheaper at the interior OL. My only questions is we usually take quicker OL, seems as though we are getting bigger and less agile at the position.

    • steve earle says:

      Ridley and Bolden on the way out? Why Bolden he has been a solid 3rd/4th RB and cost effective. Understand concerns about Ridley.
      Right on remarks about cast offs. Every rookie that makes other teams means a vet is released. Thing is 27 teams are in line ahead of us as to claims. Hope a few slip through to us.
      As for Easley’s knees being stronger? Coming from a medical background (long retired) I have trouble with that concept. Advances have come but can we say they have come that far? I don’t think so.

    • Affinn says:

      I hope it’s true I’ve seen conflicting reports for 2 days, but coming from a teammate it most likely is. We need someone and he looks Lika beast

  10. BigFarting says:

    Just watched tape on 2 guys.

    James Morris, Iowa. How was this kid not drafted? Sure he maybe small, but my god is he quick!! The kid is smart, and you can tell that. He has very good football IQ. He has great anticipation, always in the right spot, and is a sure tackler. He is quick enough to shed blockers before he gets tangled up with them, because when he meets those big OL, he is done for, LOL. But that did not happen to much, he was able to shed them and make the play. He can cover the RB, mostly because he is in the right spot, something BB likes. This kid will make the team. Reminds me of Teddy Bruh, but Teddy was much bigger, but they way the kid plays.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUEhINsShAg

    Justin Jones. Hope they sign Keller. This kid has Sudfield written all over him. Not impressed at all. He will get his ash kicked in the NFL. Camp body because Gronk will not be there, and Keller (if signed) will not be ready right away either.

    • acm says:

      Morris isn’t small – 6’1″ 240+ is very much the prototypical size of NFL LBs these days.

  11. J H TARBORO says:

    One more from Rutgers S Jeremy Deering, a former RB who ran a 4.37, 4.40, and a 4.42 in the 40yds. with good ball skills.

  12. Jack Trudel says:

    Okay! Now I’m excited. Stephen Houston? How did this guy not get drafted? Curtis Martin with 15 more pounds.

    Watch his pro day – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUUvOE5v-Po
    40″ vertical
    25 reps
    4:40 40 yd dash

    Watch him run by Shazier – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS8VVJTV4MM

    • J H TARBORO says:

      Not a problem jack, I’m excited also! Looking back in hindsight this was a good draft and the UDFAs because it’s what we really needed. It comes down to the evolution of our receivers and how they are used.

      • Jack Trudel says:

        Hope you’re right TH. Looking at the Easley pick from a dollars and sense (sic) perspective it all depends on whether they can hedge their investment in him with some type of insurance. Who insures a guy with two questionable knees? Do pro football teams have the ability to hedge on a player’s availability like oil companies can hedge on the spot price of crude? I’m asking. I really don’t know the answer.

        Contractually what will four years of a 1st round selection like Easley cost vs what can the Pats seriously hope to get from him? He’s undersized for the position, if you can call a man weighing 288 lbs undersized, lol. For however long the length of his career is he’ll be going up against 300+ pounders. What are the odds he makes it through one full season of +/- 100 practices and 20 games, never mind three additional seasons? At what cost? 15 million? 20? More?

        It’s a super bet on one player for another chance at a Superbowl. Who am I to question this pick? In Stranger in a Strange Land scifi author Robert Heinlein would have said, “Grok it.” Belichick and Krafty say, “Gronk it. It’s only money.”

  13. J H TARBORO says:

    TE Asa Watson, former Pats TE’s brother is here because his route running ability and pass catching.

  14. J H TARBORO says:

    Mississippi LB Deontae Skinner is a interesting prospect for the Pats.

  15. Bret says:

    FYI- Asa Watson went to Rock Hill HS, Clowney went to South Pointe. Both schools in Rock Hill though- Asa is a class act by the way, just like his older brother.

  16. J H TARBORO says:

    The Pats pick up UDFA RB Stephen Houston 5’11 225lbs. Indiana. This is an extremely good pick up.http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GS8VVJTV4MM

    • acm says:

      good prospect. was under the impression he had signed with the Giants but guess not.

      • J H TARBORO says:

        Brandon Bolden will be fighting for his job.

        • acm says:

          if they were to pick up a vet like Michael Bush too, Ridley may well be doing the same with all the new rookie RBs brought in.

        • Jack Trudel says:

          Sorry about posting the same video on top of you, JH. I’m stoked about this kid. The Pats atoned for their gambles with their UDFAs.

  17. bmp1113 says:

    i read they also got te Joe Don Duncan a strong traditional te who might not be fast but he’s quick enough, has good hands and can block. Dominated DII competition but thats not saying much. He was invited to the shrine game and senior bowl but was injured. He could have been drafted if he was able to look good against shrine and senior bowl game talent.
    I love the way finch plays and Id like to see him make the team.

  18. GM-In-Training says:

    I agree Easley could be a special player. I suspect with Wilfork*/Kelly*/Siliga/Chris Jones/Armstead that we could have gotten through this season without him.

    I like Garoppolo as developmental QB. Maybe the plan is to see how fast they can bring him along, show off Mallet a bunch in the pre-season to build his value up, then trade Mallet in August to a team that is a motivated buyer. If not, Mallet has 3 years experience mimicking opposing team’s offenses every week, and that’s got to be worth something as a backup.

    I wanted a rock start TE in the 2nd round too. I really, really wanted it. Gronk needs a counterpart and an understudy who is a compelling, change-the-way-the-defense-plays-you red zone threat that *can also block*. The hurry up offense needs that and also needs a really talented move TE. What do we see with the 3 UDFA TE so far? Meh.

    Justin Jones has the tools (height, power and basketball player direction-change agility). Reports are he’s not much of a blocker, and at his height he has to really bend his knees to get good leverage. There’s another worry, though.

    Justin Jones got kicked out of school for not trying (if reports are accurate). Does this young man have the head and heart for the game? There’s reason for concern.

    Of course the Patriots are still looking for veteran free agents and players who get cut late in training camp. Last year the Pats cut 6’7″ TE Zach Sudfeld at the end of camp, and I think it was the Jets who scooped him up before the Pats could sign him to the practice squad. Maybe they work that in reverse this year. There’s still ways to find new starters for 2014…but…ah well. We will see.

    • Michael M. says:

      All the high upside TEs were gone by the #62 pick. Also the Patriots cut Sudfeld after Week 4 after painfully watching him drop passes and an onside kick vs. ATL. 6’7″ TE can’t win you games if he can’t catch the football.

      • Nuf Ced says:

        Yep… Nothing left to draft when the 62 pick came up, CJF excluded but the word was the Pats didn’t care for him

    • Ryan says:

      I guess one of my thoughts recently is with the Lions drafting Ebron and Fauria last year, does that make Pettigrew some what expendable. I believe this is the last year of his contract, and if they aren’t going to resign him, Lions may be interested in a trade.

  19. ML says:

    What does everyone think about colt lyerla? I know he has his problems but as an UDFA just to see. I really like his tape-very athletic and fights for yards after the catch. He reminds me of Hernandez in terms of ability but also for off-field issues. That’s why I’m glad they didn’t draft him but as an UDFA he may be good to try out.

    • BrianD says:

      I think Lyerla’s comments concerning the Sandy Hook shootings pretty much disqualifies him from playing in New England.

    • GM-In-Training says:

      Lyerla’s problem is that you could put a lot of resources into developing him (including the roster spot) and he could disappear at any time for a drug suspension or worse. I believe that for some team out there, he’s worth the risk.

      I’m wondering why somebody hasn’t grabbed him in the first 24 hours of UDFA signing, and best I can figure is that Lyerla is holding on for either more up front money or minimal strings attached. Would you be comfortable with that?

    • Steve says:

      My biggest problem with Lyerla isn’t what he said about Sandy Hook or the fact he was arrested for doing coke in public. It’s that he quit on his team. Why in the world would anyone want a quitter?

  20. MaineMan says:

    Actually, Tyler Ott (6027/253 – 18 reps – 4.82/1.67 – 30.5″ vert – 104″ broad – 4.51 ss) was a blocking TE/FB for Harvard, as well as their regular LS. He posted 15 catches for 188 yards and 4 TDs last season. So, maybe slightly more to get excited about than usual. If nothing else, he may save the 2014 roster spot that will need to go toward the 3rd QB.

    I disagree that this was an awful draft. The Pats didn’t draft any standout starters, aside from Easley, because they didn’t really NEED them. The draftees are mostly developmental reserves (with Garoppolo being a long-term investment) where they needed depth – RB, edge-rusher, safety, LB (with a quality UDFA), and #2/#3 TE (with UDFA). However, I’ll qualify that:

    Scarnecchia is retired and Dave Guglielmo is taking over the O-line. Scar clearly favored light-footed, agile types for his primarily zone-blocking schemes, even if his interior guys were a bit on the small and lightweight side. The three interior OL that the Pats have drafted for the start of the Guglielmo Era are bigger, heavier, stronger guys with nasty dispositions (but who are all very smart) who come out of primarily power-blocking schemes. If this is an indication of an imminent scheme-change for the OL, a couple of those guys could be starting right away. And be very good.

  21. big w says:

    Nobody is what this list says, no Loston, Christian Jones, Skov, I do think between the draft and this list we have gone nowhere and teams like Denver have gone full throttle by us.

    • bmp1113 says:

      Come on, do you really believe denver went full throttle past us? They have a corner with poor technique that will struggle, a 4th or 5th string wr, and an OT that doesnt look like he will fit in with their oline. I swear some people pay all this attention to the draft and then get the idea that these guys are in any way starting nfl talent on day 1 in their rookie year. If you have a huge need and you draft a talented player it will help the team like the saints and cooks but keep it in perspective. The patriots rarely start a lot of rookies and teams that do dont win superbowls. The draft is for the future. One position the pats could have used some young talent and depth last year was a pass rushing interior dlinemen and guys on the oline, so they have improved the team as greatly for this year as any team picking 29th can. And come on guys they got revis lol.

      • Big w says:

        Did you watch that playoff game their receivers are better, there oline is better their pass rush is better , now ss is a big brute that destroyed gronk did we get better at that position no, did our pass rush get better no,we got two corners that’s it so unless they can pass rush play TE and cover everyone on the field then yes Denver has blown by us. We didn’t even pick up linebacker depth which currently have none.With Skov and Jones there, it blows my mind why we need Galon we never have the ball why do we need more offensive players .

        • Nuf Ced says:

          Settle down… This team is not done yet. There will be a wave of roster cuts this summer (I am sure the Pats have a bunch of projections on who) and players will be available then. On addition do you recall how many guys we had on IR last year? They will be back.

          Take a deep breathe and realize there is more to roster building than the draft

        • Big w says:

          More scrap heap and torn acls awesome

        • grg says:

          pretty negative stuff. By all accounts the pats defense is greatly improved. If they are in nickel and dime package most of the time only 2 LB’s (nickel) will be on the field and maybe only 1 Safety (dime).In nickel and dime we’ll have our best players on the field – Defense looks solid.

          On Offense – you have to give WR’s a year or 2 to develop. Dobson , thompkins and boyce all could make strides. Edelman, Amendola and lafell are all decent. Few rookies would replace any of them. On Tightend – good chance BB was just unimpressed. His job is to evaluate talent. He decided they weren’t worth it … oh well. Personally I have to admire the fact that he did that knowing he would be lambasted by NE fans – he doesn’t care. He does what he feels is right for the team.

          RB is solid but the rookie will help. Bolden may not make it though.

          G

        • Big w says:

          We have a guy sitting out a 4 game suspension a cb who is basicly on a one year contract no pass rush a defence who stays on the field way to long . No LB depth and we say good draft is Jim Jones pouring Kool aid down everybody’s throat Bill is a shity drafter it is what it is Willy, Teddy, Ted, were all drafted by parcells he nedds help not a bunch of yes men at the top.

    • J H TARBORO says:

      Skiv went to the Raiders!

    • Bill Vermont says:

      Loston went to Arizona to be with par Petersen and Tyrone mathieu also of LSU. Jones went to the Bears, and Skov went to 49 ers. Everybody’s busy, and its real competitive out there.

  22. Smog says:

    Is “Dan” is the same curmudgeon who was posting under the name “Daniel Martin” yesterday?

    • nah, that Daniel Martin was hired as GM during the last week LOL

      • Daniel R. Martin says:

        Yeah sure dude. Because any one with an opinion thinks he or she is a GM, right? They’re only 32 of those in the entire world. So no one else has the ability to formulate an informed opinion? Hopefully you guys are just joking. You aren’t actually to stupid to realize the entire purpose of these comment sections are for fans to congregate and post opinions.

        The only thing Dan and I have in common, besides our first name, is that we aren’t too dumb to realize how horrible this draft was, nor have we drank too much kool-aid to pretend differently. Newsflash though, they’re many people weighing in on this website with similar opinions.

        • Henry says:

          I’m just wondering how we can decide how good the draft was until these guys get on the field.

        • Big w says:

          Well when there is no footage or a grainy high school picture of the player then chances are you sucked bad enough for the 5000 ncaa or nfl scouts to take a decent tape of you. I think this draft stunk, I thought the last 5 stunk and those players taken outside of first round picks have proven me right.

        • steve earle says:

          Well said Dan. Lot’s of late comers with 20-20′s suddenly have opinions. These are guys who always hang back waiting for an excuse to jump on others. I notice few of them put their names out there ( no offense to AM, acm and other regulars who put their ideas down in open debate) and these new angry, and outraged guys feel the need to be crude and insulting as though we have transgressed something sacred. One guy wrote in all capitals to be sure we heard his insults I guess. Only time will tell but I’ll still say taking a risk on Easley was unwise even if he proves to be everything Bill thinks he will be, and I really hope he’s right. That and trading down would have likely given us 4 picks in the top 100 rather the the 2 we got. Hope Easley was worth it !

    • Daniel R. Martin says:

      No. I post with my full name or my initials and no other way. What, did you think I was so concerned by your third grade insults and spelling lessons that I’d post differently? Despite what you clearly think, you’re not a big deal. Your opinions are no more important than anyone here, yet in your stupid mind I’m a know it all and you somehow are not. In a week you’ll either go back under the bridge you crawled out from under around draft week or you’ll troll elsewhere, and I’ll continue posting on this site with the same name I’ve used on here for many months.

      • Smog says:

        You must be at least a little concerned, since you took the time to learn the difference between “your” and “you’re” after I pointed it out to you yesterday.

        • Daniel R. Martin says:

          Sure have! No I can confidently proclaim that you’re an asshole, and that no one cares about your opinions. :-)

      • Smog says:

        Except that you cared enough to take my advice on your grammar. Also, you seem to have cared enough to change your name again. Are you “Big W” now?

  23. Dan says:

    this was the worst draft we have had in a long long time

    • DaBruinz says:

      I didn’t realize that DAN was the replacement for Ms. Cleo.. Dan.. quick.. Tell everyone the numbers to play for Tuesday’s lottery so we can all retire…

    • Jack says:

      Hard to say at this point. One thing I like about it is how they shored up the interior OL. That was a real problem last year. I was saying from that start that it was in fact the Pats biggest need – above TE, DE, LB, all that. Brady was sacked 44 times or something like that last year. Imagine giving him more time! Wendell has some competition with Stork now, and that could improve both of them. May the best man win! Also, with the big tackle from Stanford, Fleming, it frees Cannon to move into guard, which at this point is probably an upgrade over Connelly. And maybe move Connelly to center if he can beat out Wendell *and* Stork! If Vollmer is hurt, you have two potential backups now in Fleming or Canon. Not to mention Halapio! He was actually one of the higher rated guards in the pre-draft publications, and Belichick said he was surprised to find him it that spot. Another great value pick – like Easley and Grappolo, who both would have been taken immediately after the Pats drafted. Halapio is another guard who can compete for a starting position. Wow! With this kind of competition, Brady should be upright a lot more than he was last season.

      As far as Garoppolo, it was a little disappointing not to go TE or Center – but it’s the smart pick. Brady won’t play forever, and Mallet is gone gone gone next year. Garappolo has a lot of plusses – smart, good leadership skills, turned the program around at his school, super-fast release, superior short-to-mid passing game, smart, “good eyes”, accurate. There’s a lot to like about him and he certainly has a handle on the short game, which is far more important than downfield.

      On Easley, it’s a roll of the dice. His tape is phenomenal – the guy practically transports himself into the backfield! It’s nuts. I saw three straight stills of him – on different plays – where he was a full step ahead of the other d-lineman off the snap. It’s sick!

      Also, consider that he came back relatively quickly from the first ACL and was off to a great start when he got hurt again. His trainer says he’s recovered quickly and will be completely healthy by training camp. He is an effort guy, and doesn’t take plays off like Clowney. Ray Lewis was raving about him on ESPN after the Pats drafted him. He was practically crying! (not really;) Yes, it’s a roll of the dice. But, sometimes you have to roll the dice to get ahead. Risk-takers are the ones who get rich.

      The back end of the draft, you never know. I like Gallon – another smurf but fast and can catch – I like Moore – small school, great measurables could contribute at DE, I like Thomas, versatile, teams guy right off, ball skill, could compete for safety – and how about that 5′ 7″ rb, Finch? Highlight-reel-guy. Oh, yeah and the James White kid – reliable 3 down back, doesn’t give up the ball.

      On the surface, I understand the letdown – Brady’s shrinking window, the risk, etc. But I see a smart organization making smart choices. Contrast that with, say Buffalo. They gave up a first and a fourth next year? maybe? to move up just a few spots. Stupid! They are always pulling stunts like that.

  24. J H TARBORO says:

    TE/FB Tyler Beck is a interesting pick up and very good blocker with good hands.http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6L5eWt5C97g

    • Russell says:

      Cincinnati signed Nikita Whitlock.

    • Bill russell says:

      Agreed. Saw this young man play many times. total team player. Great blocker and very soft hands. Looks like he could be an impact player if need be but always was team first attitude. And a great student. Bonus

  25. acm says:

    Very much like the Morris kid from Iowa, not familiar though with the LB Gordon from Michigan. Hope they bring in some more LB prospects for training camp.

    Liked the picks in the 4-7 rd range yesterday but was hoping they’d manage to squeeze in at least on LB there. Hope Stevie B. is ready to go ’cause the lack of starter-level depth at LB might come to bight the Pats n the butt.

    Have some reservations about TE Duncan – he didn’t face much of a competition in college and am concerned he may turn out to lack the agility and explosiveness to get separation at the pros. Maybe he could play a FB type of role with the occasional coming out of the back field but very much doubt he can be a weapon in the passing game day-in, day-out.

  26. J H TARBORO says:

    RB Roy Finch jr. Oklahoma aka “The lightning bug” welcome to New England. He’s tough, small, jacked and fearless! http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7NbpwiA03UI

    • acm says:

      the Pats have found their Dri Archer/DeAnthony Thomas … in free agency :)

      • J H TARBORO says:

        Roy Finch is a tough kid and looking at this draft, I notice big linemen and smaller,quicker running backs. In 2014 we’re running the ball!

        • acm says:

          That was in no a knock on Fynch as I like the player. Point was the Pats were not gonna spend a pick on a Dri Archer/DA Thomas type player, especially not in the early-to-mid rounds, when they can find that guy for free … minus the youtube highlight reels.

      • J H TARBORO says:

        The YouTube reel is only to show others who he is.

  27. Tyler says:

    Any updates on Joe Don Duncan?????????

  28. Dan says:

    Justin Jones is a complete stiff…zero chance of making any NFL team

    • MaineMan says:

      Jones is only slightly more raw at TE than Niklas and has greater athletic upside (his 6.88 3-cone blows away any TE from the Combine, including Lyerla). And he didn’t require a second-round pick.

      • STEVE G says:

        Just watched some footage of Jones. Love his size n athleticism. Shows some quickness n at times power in his blocking. If coached…..n if he can learn, or wants to learn, the Pats may have something here. Big question….does he love the game? Talent to work with. Mind to mold?

  29. We could see Jones playing a type role in the red zone like Joseph Fauria?

  30. rdf63 says:

    Pats go after what you missed in the draft. Forgot about projects and look at these type of players:
    Christian Jones OLB Florida State
    Jackson Jeffcoat DE Texas
    Deandre Coleman DT California
    Kelcy Quarles DT South Carolina
    Shayne Skov ILB Stanfod
    Max Bullough ILB MSU
    Craig Loton Safety LSU
    Dion Bailey Safety USC
    Jake Murphy TE Utah
    Brandon Coleman WR Rutgers

  31. Mike R says:

    Jones would be a real nice sign!! Definitely a big Red Target threat and a mismatch to a lot of corners in today NFL league!!!

  32. Kevan says:

    Patriots should bring in jermichael finely for a visit.

  33. Krevet says:

    Joe Don Duncan is rumored to have signed as well. Lots of TE activity!

  34. jim r says:

    Jones is interesting, would be great if he made the roster. Red zone help






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