NEPD Mailbag: Too Long For Twitter

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Is Mohamed Sanu a fit for the Patriots?

NEPD Editor: Doug Kyed

Who were the big winner during the combine? What wide receivers might the Patriots target in free agency? Which players in this draft do I not like?

Those are some of the questions I’ll be answering in my weekly “Too Long For Twitter” Friday mailbag where I take questions from Twitter that warrant, deserve or need answers longer than 140 characters

If you have a question about anything, tweet it to me @DougKyed, and I’ll try to include it in the column on Friday. If you aren’t on Twitter, feel free to throw in a question in the comments section.

@Pawsox38
@DougKyed any truth about v. Jackson to pats?

I can’t see it. I’d take Vincent Jackson over Mike Wallace, but I don’t see the Patriots spending that much on a wide receiver in free agency.

Of course, I never would have expected the Patriots to trade for Wes Welker and Randy Moss in the same offseason, so you never really know what they’re going to do.

My problem with signing a guy like Jackson or Wallace to such a big deal is that they won’t be as valuable to the Patriots as they would be to other teams. Brady already spreads the ball around so much between Hernandez, Gronkowski and Welker, would those guys really get enough targets to warrant such a big deal?

I don’t think so.

I keep going back to it, but this is such a deep WR class, that the Pats could grab a couple of great receivers in the second and fourth rounds and really be set at that position for a while.

Knowing the Pats? They’ll trade their 31st pick for Mike Wallace and you’ll be hearing me go on and on about how mad I am about it until September.

@TheFFGhost
@DougKyed Now that the combine is over which player overall increased their value the most in your opinion?

It’s Dontari Poe. He was already a heralded prospect coming in to the draft, but his insane measureables really pushed his stock over the edge. You’re going to be seeing him mocked in the top ten more and more leading up to the draft.

What stands out to me about Poe and his combine performance is that he may be a better 5-technique prospect than a NT if he’s going to be drafted into a 3-4. He played both positions in college, but I saw better success from him when he wasn’t expected to go up against double teams.

I’m still very undecided on Poe. He has incredible upside based on his athleticism, but it never really showed at Memphis in his game tape or his stat sheet. Poe had trouble getting a push against even Conference-USA offensive linemen, and really got pushed back in double teams.

Call me crazy, but a 346 lb man who can bench 500 pounds and squat 700, while running like a linebacker should probably have better stats against guys who likely couldn’t crack a UFL roster. But who knows what will happen when NFL coaches get their hands on him.

@isreed
@DougKyed gt Stephen hill had a great combine. How much does this boost his stock and is he a guy the pats look at?

Hill’s a similar prospect to Poe. He’s got all (but the short shuttle) the measureables, but he’s still a pretty unknown commodity.

I figured Hill would have a great combine, but I would be lying if I said I expected a 40 time in the 4.3s.

I think the combine might boost him from a consensus 3/4th rounder to maybe a 2/3rd. For me, I’d still only take him in the third. He’s a decent run blocker, and he’s maybe the best field stretcher in the draft, but he’s got some major questions with his hands, and even bigger ones with his limited route running.

I think he’s definitely a player the Patriots will look at, but he’s not a guy that I would want before the 4th round for the Patriots.

The Pats need guys who can come in right away, run a full route tree, have experience in a pro style offense, pick the playbook quickly and be used all over the field. That’s not Stephen Hill.

If you want more reason to be afraid of Hill? How about these names, because he fits in the same mold: Bethel Johnson, Chad Jackson, Taylor Price, Brandon Tate.

::runs away screaming::

@WCPCUPBLOG
@DougKyed potential first rounder you would least like the Patriots to draft

Great question, I’ve pondered this before. Last year it was Mark Ingram. I hated the idea of spending a first on a running back, and I wasn’t too pleased with the idea of spending a 2nd and a third on one as well.

This year, there’s a few players that could be available down where the Patriots are picking that I wouldn’t be happy about.

Mohamed Sanu: I don’t think he offers much that the Patriots don’t already have. I’ve asked the question many times, but what would Sanu give New England that Aaron Hernandez doesn’t already give them? I want a player who can make things happen after the catch, and Sanu isn’t that guy.

Jerrel Worthy: Doesn’t fit the system, likely only a 4-3 DT.

Mike Adams: Not a huge Adams fan and the last thing I want the Patriots to do is draft another tackle in the first round. If Marcus Cannon were in this draft, I’d like him more than Adams.

Zach Brown: I only see him as a WLB, not a 3-4 OLB.

Whitney Mercilus: Not an every down player, doesn’t have the skills required for a first rounder.

Other than that, I’ll be fine with the players currently projected as first rounders. What I would be the most aggravated with is if they severely reach for anyone.

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14 Responses to “NEPD Mailbag: Too Long For Twitter”

  1. Dan says:

    I think he’s a good fit, if not great fit, but 3rd round if he’s still around. I like his game, but if he doesn’t improve that 40 time and show he can separate at the NFL level he’ll fall fast.

  2. Nuf Ced says:

    It a crazy thought about taking Zach Brown and making him into a hybrid dime LB/SS type? Doesn’t he have enough freaky athleticism to turn BB into a mad scientist again?

  3. Chris says:

    I’d love Mark Barron in the first, then trade down our second first if the disruptive edge rushers are all gone. I’d love some of those ‘Bama linebackers or Fletcher Cox, but they’re likely gone. I think Belichick knows the traditional best values are in the second and third rounds.

    But I’m increasingly intrigued with moving up to take Poe after his combine. The thought of him saddled next to Vince is like hot cocoa on a cold day.

    An article on the Michigan State receivers for mid to later rounds well worth a look: http://www.theonlycolors.com/2012/2/29/2832077/linking-laconically-is-distracting-itself-with-some-football#storyjump

  4. Chris says:

    If the Pats trade down and accumulate picks or trade Hoyer, another Spartan product to consider, two actually, are KMart and The Rock, RB Edwin Baker. Both come from the highly respected MSU program and can run in the mid 4.4′s.

    Keshawn Martin has skills eerily similar to a young Deion Branch. Shorter but with excellent quickness and adequate speed to get deep. And KMart would be a big upgrade over Edelman or Welker in returns.

    Think about it.

  5. MJP says:

    Opinions on FS? Harrison Smith, Brandon Taylor, George Iloka…any opinions?

    I think Andre Branch would get serious consideration at 27, he’s the most rounded DE/OLB prospect, he controls the edge well with active hands and has all the athleticism you could ask for. His pass-rush is raw in terms of its versatility and consistency, he’s all athlete right now. If he started using those long arms and strong hands to create more separation he could then set up OT’s for other moves rather than relying on his athleticism, he could be the piece the Pats so desperately need at OLB.

    • AM says:

      Personally, I’d draft Chase Minnifield, and use him as a swing DB. He’s potentially a starting caliber corner, but he could definitely make the transition to FS.

      • Bill says:

        I think he only benched 7 reps. Thats really not pro football level. There are plenty of good corners available with speed and strength like gilmore and Fleming from Oklahoma that you can get in the 2nd round

    • Ken W says:

      Branch doesn’t seem to be worth a 1st round pick. For what I saw of him when he times the snap and gets a great jump he does well but doesn’t have any pass rushing moves. Also didn’t seem like a consistant tackler.

      I think Ronnell Lewis in the 2nd round would be a much better option. Still a little raw but has some moves and hits hard. Plays special teams also.

    • Jim R says:

      I think they will pick at 31 and it will be an Olineman. Glenn or Kunz. Olineman are safe bets

  6. qwerty says:

    good points

    For first round picks

    1) Patriots should not over reach

    2) Should be at least a 3 down player (not situational player)

  7. Billy C. says:

    I look at Barry Weiss as Al Davis (may he rest in peace) and the Oakland Raiders. They have no clue who to draft or bid on and both are always reaching for something that is rarely worth anything of real value.

  8. Joe Blake says:

    First priority: We need help at safety. Get Mark Barron from Alabama or pick up a big time franchise safety.

    • Jim R says:

      Need a FS not another SS. I think Leave McCourty at FS or move Dowling there. There looks to be a ton of Corners in the draft. If TENN. does not franchise Cortland Finnegan that should be our target.



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