NEPD Mailbag: Too Long For Twitter

@ErikFrenz asks
@DougKyed Who are your favorite second- and third-round prospects for the Patriots at wide receiver?

Listen, if you guys are gonna throw me a Gary Payton-to-Shawn Kemp-like alley oop to talk about Marvin Jones, then I’m gonna posterize y’all with this slam dunk. Here are my favorite 2nd/3rd round prospects for the Pats at WR:

Joe Adams, Arkansas – Slot receiver who can also be used outside. He’s a burner who should tear up the 40 time at the combine. Has a lot of versatility in the run game, returns and multiple WR positions. He’s a natural fit for the Pats, would need be taken with the 31st or 48th pick.

T.Y. Hilton, FIU – Kind of a poor man’s Joe Adams/Kendall Wright, he’s another speedy WR who also has a ton of versatility in the run game/returns/multiple WR positions. His best position might be slot receiver. He has durability concerns, but if he can stay healthy, is a very talented player. He’d have to be taken in with the 48th or 63rd picks.

Rueben Randle, LSU – Talented bigger WR who can line up outside and run intermediate and deeper routes. Should run in the 4.4s this weekend. His route running is average, but he has a lot of upside. Could go as high as the first round.

Marvin McNutt, Iowa – A touch slower than the prototypical Patriots wide receiver, but he’s a big target who was a former QB. Runs precise routes and has nice hands, should do the little things that can help a WR be great. Very smart player. Pats should take a look at him with the 63rd or 94th picks.

Marvin Jones, CAL – Tall, slender WR who can go up and grab the ball. Had some different roles during his time at CAL being more of a deep threat his sophomore and junior years, then running more intermediate and shallow routes his senior year. Has experience in a pro style offense running option routes and can get nice separation using deception in his route running. Pats should be looking at him with the 63rd or 94th picks.

The one similarity in all of those players? They should all be able to step in and contribute right away. I hope the Patriots are done with the Taylor Price/Bethel Johnson/Chad Jackson types.

@RyanBuske asks
@DougKyed can you make a case as to why so many mocks have Fletcher Cox going to the Patriots? #mailbag

He’s likely the best 5-technique player in this year’s draft. I see him as a Ty Warren type who, with more refinement, should be able to get into the backfield in a number of ways. Very athletic player, who used quickness to get past his blockers.

With Mike Wright gone, Myron Pryor always injured and Brandon Deaderick slightly inept in the pass rush category, the Patriots have a need at 3-4 DE who can get after the QB. A lot of people simply look at the edge rushers as the way to get some pressure, but if the Patriots can generate more from the inside, they won’t have to worry about getting a stud edge rusher.

Cox is one player that I actually wouldn’t mind the Patriots trading up for. Deaderick and Love are fine players against the run, but watching them try to shed blockers and get after the QB can be painful. Cox can be absolutely dominant, and he did it in the best conference in College Football, the SEC.

@Kevinchase7 asks
@DougKyedWhat’s going to happen with Brian Hoyer? How is he viewed by talent evaluators around the league? More specifically, what type of draft pick would Hoyer net on the open market?

The Patriots should be able to get a 3rd or 4th round pick out of Hoyer. I’ve seen some projections in the 2nd round, but that’s just too high. Teams like to see players have success during the regular season before they’re willing to spend high picks on them.

I like Hoyer, but I also think it would be a mistake for a team to spend anything higher than a mid-third round pick on him.

Lets just hope that if Hoyer ever does get a shot in the regular season, it will be late in the season with the highest playoff slot sealed up. I personally wouldn’t mind the Patriots trading Hoyer or Mallett this offseason. It’s nice to have three quality QBs, but it’s not a necessity.

@APHOOPS12 asks
@DougKyed any chance pats keep both #1’s? Do they have a shot and would they b interested in Barron or K Wright?
@bradybacker77 asks
@DougKyedyeah….is this the year that we actually use 2 first round picks?

I’ll group these two together, if there’s a year the Patriots SHOULD keep both first round picks, this is the year. The Brady/Belichick era’s door is closing and the Pats should get as many NFL-ready players as possible.

That being said, if they can get the right deal that gives them a high second, a first next year and a later round pick, they should do it. Currently, the Patriots don’t have any picks in the 5th, 6th or 7th rounds and that’s really the place to get some great value.

With Barron’s hernia surgery, he could definitely fall to the Patriots in the first round, and I think they would be interested in him with such a need at safety.

I can’t see Kendall Wright falling to the Patriots in the first round. With a solid combine, he could even go in the top ten. If he did fall though, I think the Patriots would jump at the shot to draft a player like him.

I know Patriots fans hate waiting for their pick just have it traded down, but it’s also the reason the Patriots have been consistently successful for the past 12 years, so we can’t complain too much.

The Patriots take on the draft will take you on a roller coaster ride, you’ll love some picks, you’ll hate some picks and they’ll constantly be jumping up and down the draft board. Fortunately (or at time, unfortunately), it’s our job to try to predict that mess.

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13 Responses to “NEPD Mailbag: Too Long For Twitter”

  1. Ken W says:

    what do you guys think?

    27. DE Cox/Still (checked out some youtube of Still – he can be dominant)
    31. Trade (2013 1st and 2012 2nd)
    48. WR Joe Adams
    * (from trade) S George Iloka
    63. CB Trumaine Johnson
    94. WR Marvin Jones/ DE Derek Wolfe (check him out, I liked what I saw)

  2. avk says:

    What do you think of Stephen Hill out of Georgia as a fit for the Pats, and where could they get him? Seems like he’s got the size (6’4″) and speed we need. I realize he didn’t put up insane numbers at Georgia, but I think that’s a result of the type of offense they run. plus he’s coming from a school that produced Calvin Johnson and Demariyus Thomas.

  3. And F says:

    I would love to see something like this:

    28 – DE, DT or OLB – give me an impact player that can put pressure on a quaterback.
    31 – trade for 2013 1st rounder and a 2012 second rounder.
    Second Round – use all three picks – a wide receiver, cornerback or safety, defensive end or OLB.
    Third round – safety, corner back, defensive end or olb.
    fourth round – Childs

  4. dslave says:

    I’ved learn to go with the flow and to try and think how their philosophy translates to the same things BB covets in draft picks. Higher picks play in bigger schools. They have specific requirements,versatility, intellengence, high football iq,ect. Ithink there matbe 2 de’s/olbs he may like Cam JOHNSON and SHEA McCllien. thier size and bio’s are what thwy like. Ne Pats Draft likes McCllein.

  5. qwerty says:

    >The Brady/Belichick era’s door is closing and the Pats should get as many NFL-ready players as possible.

    This is panicking.

    Patriots need to maintain a long term time frame. Just because Brady era will be closing, doesn’t mean that the Mallet era won’t come about.

    I think the Patriots will have to use their first round picks this year because the slots are only trade-able with a few select teams.

  6. qwerty says:

    >I personally wouldn’t mind the Patriots trading Hoyer or Mallett this offseason. It’s nice to have three quality QBs, but it’s not a necessity.

    Trading a potential franchise QB like Mallett … NEVER

    Mallett showed very high potential in the preseason games

    Even better than Hoyer

    He is worth at least two first rounders even though he has never played

    Brady’s last year as starting QB for Patriots is likely 2014

    Finding a QB talent better than Mallett won’t be easy

    If Mallet is ever traded away, the Patriots will trade away thier future

  7. Ken W says:

    I think the only way the Pats trade up is if a good DE that they really like falls down the board a little and is in the early 20’s. Then I could see them trying to jump the Texans, Broncos, and Steelers for Brockers, Still, Cox.

    Would only cost them a 3rd and they could easy get that back by trading down from #31 which is likely.

  8. TD says:

    I think there may be suitors for one of the 1st rounders that we have had a history with:

    Ravens-need OLine help
    Texans-need WR, DLine help
    Carolina-need DLine, LB help
    New Orleans-need DLine, DB help

    Jets-need help using a calculator on salary cap

    • Jeff says:

      Don’t forget the Falcons don’t have a 1st this year either. They may be willing to trade their 1st next year, and their 2nd this year to get into the 1st since Dimitroff and Smith could be in hot water if they don’t make some very good progress this year.

      If they don’t address some key needs in FA, look for them to be trading up into the 1st with the Pats. There’s also a lot of defensive help that could appeal to KC in the draft so look out for them trying to get back into the 1st even if they get a stud with their pick.

    • jim r says:

      We can get the raisers 2013 draft for # 27. raiders do not pick until the 5th round. Do not worry they will take Chris rainey with that pick. He will run a 4.29

  9. Asap says:

    You guys have any views on Robinson out of Arizona State? Looks like he put out some good numbers in school and also made a couple plays in senior bowl. Everyone has him listed at 25th WR or worst, and I’m wondering why?

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